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	<description>Blog for the diabetics who use an insulin pump to control diabetes</description>
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		<title>By: Randolph Fawn</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25647</link>
		<author>Randolph Fawn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25647</guid>
		<description>Are you sure they aren't $5,000 ($4,995) before discounts?
Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure they aren&#8217;t $5,000 ($4,995) before discounts?<br />
Jan</p>
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		<title>By: patience_15</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25646</link>
		<author>patience_15</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25646</guid>
		<description>&#60;&#60; Yes, but I get a discount!

They are giving me a trade in allowance.

&#62;&#62;

Thank goodness. Chrissy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;&lt; Yes, but I get a discount!</p>
<p>They are giving me a trade in allowance.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Thank goodness. Chrissy</p>
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		<title>By: Olin Ok</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25645</link>
		<author>Olin Ok</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25645</guid>
		<description>Yes, but I get a discount!

They are giving me a trade in allowance.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but I get a discount!</p>
<p>They are giving me a trade in allowance.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Olin Ok</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25644</link>
		<author>Olin Ok</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25644</guid>
		<description>Partick,
No, I have not checked with Medigap, but I already know the answer...NO NO NO.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Partick,<br />
No, I have not checked with Medigap, but I already know the answer&#8230;NO NO NO.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: patience_15</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25642</link>
		<author>patience_15</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25642</guid>
		<description>&#60;&#60; So I am looking at springing for a 508 out of my own pocket, and then
getting the free upgrade to the Paradigm later &#62;&#62;

Arent they like $4000? Chrissy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;&lt; So I am looking at springing for a 508 out of my own pocket, and then<br />
getting the free upgrade to the Paradigm later &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Arent they like $4000? Chrissy</p>
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		<title>By: Olin Ok</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25641</link>
		<author>Olin Ok</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25641</guid>
		<description>Suzanna,
I am in the process of getting the 'denial' from Medicare. I expect the reason
to be that I already have a pump; if it isn't then I have learned something new!

Once I get the denial, then I qualify for supplies.

Then, I may go for the 508 on a private deal.

Not sure why I really need a 508; the 507 works just fine, but the warranty
expires in November.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanna,<br />
I am in the process of getting the &#8216;denial&#8217; from Medicare. I expect the reason<br />
to be that I already have a pump; if it isn&#8217;t then I have learned something new!</p>
<p>Once I get the denial, then I qualify for supplies.</p>
<p>Then, I may go for the 508 on a private deal.</p>
<p>Not sure why I really need a 508; the 507 works just fine, but the warranty<br />
expires in November.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: jerrold16</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25637</link>
		<author>jerrold16</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25637</guid>
		<description>Have you checked to see if your Medigap insurance will cover a new pump?

Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you checked to see if your Medigap insurance will cover a new pump?</p>
<p>Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Melendez</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25620</link>
		<author>Raymond Melendez</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25620</guid>
		<description>Hey David,

I agree...you've got your information! I just went through about 300
posts...so when I wrote my response I hadn't seen all the others!
Oops!

I too would be amazed if the Paradigm has been upgraded the
the &#34;current&#34; model yet! When I left the office last month, medicare
would only cover the 507 (506 was a typo)...I'm sure that due to
supply issues the refurbished 508 is the new standard...I just had no
access to that information. Which is why they won't cover upgrades.
It stinks! I know that for new pumpers who qualify at least they
have an option to pump...but noone should be restricted to
a &#34;previous&#34; model standard like this policy basically does. Of
course many private insurances still refuse to pay for an upgrade if
&lt;!--more--&gt;
the current pump is working, but most will consider an upgrade once
the warranty runs out. Unfortunately like everything else the gov't
programs run behind the private industry.

Getting a pump through Medicare is a perfect example of too much red
tape and regulation, the process needs improving, but the guidance
and control isn't there to do so very quickly.

One question, did you actually get a denial from your Medicare
carrier (a hard copy)? You should have. I'd be curious to see
exactly what they use as the denial reason. It might also be helpful
for us to reference when we start sending letters to Congress
demanding Medicare improvement.

Suzanna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,</p>
<p>I agree&#8230;you&#8217;ve got your information! I just went through about 300<br />
posts&#8230;so when I wrote my response I hadn&#8217;t seen all the others!<br />
Oops!</p>
<p>I too would be amazed if the Paradigm has been upgraded the<br />
the &quot;current&quot; model yet! When I left the office last month, medicare<br />
would only cover the 507 (506 was a typo)&#8230;I&#8217;m sure that due to<br />
supply issues the refurbished 508 is the new standard&#8230;I just had no<br />
access to that information. Which is why they won&#8217;t cover upgrades.<br />
It stinks! I know that for new pumpers who qualify at least they<br />
have an option to pump&#8230;but noone should be restricted to<br />
a &quot;previous&quot; model standard like this policy basically does. Of<br />
course many private insurances still refuse to pay for an upgrade if<br />
<!--more--><br />
the current pump is working, but most will consider an upgrade once<br />
the warranty runs out. Unfortunately like everything else the gov&#8217;t<br />
programs run behind the private industry.</p>
<p>Getting a pump through Medicare is a perfect example of too much red<br />
tape and regulation, the process needs improving, but the guidance<br />
and control isn&#8217;t there to do so very quickly.</p>
<p>One question, did you actually get a denial from your Medicare<br />
carrier (a hard copy)? You should have. I&#8217;d be curious to see<br />
exactly what they use as the denial reason. It might also be helpful<br />
for us to reference when we start sending letters to Congress<br />
demanding Medicare improvement.</p>
<p>Suzanna</p>
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		<title>By: Olin Ok</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25613</link>
		<author>Olin Ok</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25613</guid>
		<description>Very true, but in practice it works just fine.

I have been receiving 250 per month for five years now, and have never had a
problem. Medicare always has paid, and the Medigap has always paid the rest.

I get stung occasionally in January due to the $100 deductible being declined,
as the Medigap does not pay for non preferred providers; the moral here is to
always see an MD in early January (be sure NO other Medicare charges appear
before that) who qualifies, and make sure they charge at least $100! Rules,
Rules Rules.....

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, but in practice it works just fine.</p>
<p>I have been receiving 250 per month for five years now, and have never had a<br />
problem. Medicare always has paid, and the Medigap has always paid the rest.</p>
<p>I get stung occasionally in January due to the $100 deductible being declined,<br />
as the Medigap does not pay for non preferred providers; the moral here is to<br />
always see an MD in early January (be sure NO other Medicare charges appear<br />
before that) who qualifies, and make sure they charge at least $100! Rules,<br />
Rules Rules&#8230;..</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Olin Ok</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25612</link>
		<author>Olin Ok</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2006/11/30/meter-question-again/#comment-25612</guid>
		<description>Suzanna,
I stand on my previous statement...

It came directly from the Minimed specialist at their home office (Molly Gordon.

The 508 they supply is refurbished. I have no idea if the Paradigm has been
approved yet; I tend to think not.

But, if you already have a pump (504, 506, 507, doesn't matter; Medicare will
not approve a pump! They consider that since you already have one, you don't
need another, regardless of the model. So, I am out of luck due to that (I am
on my 3rd pump at this point).

So I am looking at springing for a 508 out of my own pocket, and then getting
the free upgrade to the Paradigm later. At this point, I am not sure I want
&lt;!--more--&gt;
the Paradigm; not enough capacity. When U200 insulin comes on the market, that
will change my attitude.

I would suggest that you call Molly Gordon, Medicare Specialist, (x5364) and
get her opinion directly....

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanna,<br />
I stand on my previous statement&#8230;</p>
<p>It came directly from the Minimed specialist at their home office (Molly Gordon.</p>
<p>The 508 they supply is refurbished. I have no idea if the Paradigm has been<br />
approved yet; I tend to think not.</p>
<p>But, if you already have a pump (504, 506, 507, doesn&#8217;t matter; Medicare will<br />
not approve a pump! They consider that since you already have one, you don&#8217;t<br />
need another, regardless of the model. So, I am out of luck due to that (I am<br />
on my 3rd pump at this point).</p>
<p>So I am looking at springing for a 508 out of my own pocket, and then getting<br />
the free upgrade to the Paradigm later. At this point, I am not sure I want<br />
<!--more--><br />
the Paradigm; not enough capacity. When U200 insulin comes on the market, that<br />
will change my attitude.</p>
<p>I would suggest that you call Molly Gordon, Medicare Specialist, (x5364) and<br />
get her opinion directly&#8230;.</p>
<p>David</p>
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