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		<title>By: daphne400</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23175</link>
		<author>daphne400</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys! hate to keep touting, but IIS will send videos on both pumps so
you can get a good look see....1-800-838-7867....try it, you'll like it!
Joan:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys! hate to keep touting, but IIS will send videos on both pumps so<br />
you can get a good look see&#8230;.1-800-838-7867&#8230;.try it, you&#8217;ll like it!<br />
Joan:)</p>
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		<title>By: mattie_70</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23173</link>
		<author>mattie_70</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23173</guid>
		<description>Hi Kathy -

Disetronic have the biggest share of the market in Europe, and MiniMed have
the biggest share in the US, but apart from that the 2 pumps are really
very similar. And MiniMed and Disetronic fight tooth and nail, rather like
Coke and Pepsi...

Disetronic pumps take exactly the same infusion sets as MiniMed pumps - so
you can use any infusion set you like. MiniMed will try and sell you only
their own brands and Disetronic likewise will sell you only theirs. But if
you are wise and informed you will try all the infusion sets available
until you find the one that suits you best.

If your daughter(?) gets allergic rashes, you'll need to experiment to find
what works best. Many people use something like SkinPrep to protect the
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skin before putting any tape on it. I personally have found the Disetronic
Tenders (same as MiniMed Silhouette) to be the only one that gives me no
rash, since I have very sensitive skin. But that is just what works for me.

Anyhow, good luck! Exciting times lie ahead...

John

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathy -</p>
<p>Disetronic have the biggest share of the market in Europe, and MiniMed have<br />
the biggest share in the US, but apart from that the 2 pumps are really<br />
very similar. And MiniMed and Disetronic fight tooth and nail, rather like<br />
Coke and Pepsi&#8230;</p>
<p>Disetronic pumps take exactly the same infusion sets as MiniMed pumps - so<br />
you can use any infusion set you like. MiniMed will try and sell you only<br />
their own brands and Disetronic likewise will sell you only theirs. But if<br />
you are wise and informed you will try all the infusion sets available<br />
until you find the one that suits you best.</p>
<p>If your daughter(?) gets allergic rashes, you&#8217;ll need to experiment to find<br />
what works best. Many people use something like SkinPrep to protect the<br />
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skin before putting any tape on it. I personally have found the Disetronic<br />
Tenders (same as MiniMed Silhouette) to be the only one that gives me no<br />
rash, since I have very sensitive skin. But that is just what works for me.</p>
<p>Anyhow, good luck! Exciting times lie ahead&#8230;</p>
<p>John</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: antoinette_5</title>
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		<author>antoinette_5</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy here is the technical support number for Disetronic 1-800-280-7801,
Maybe they can help you some of your questions and also fax and mail you the
information that you are looking for.
They have been helpful to me in the past, I use a Minimed pump but use some
of there sets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy here is the technical support number for Disetronic 1-800-280-7801,<br />
Maybe they can help you some of your questions and also fax and mail you the<br />
information that you are looking for.<br />
They have been helpful to me in the past, I use a Minimed pump but use some<br />
of there sets.</p>
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		<title>By: belinda_20</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23171</link>
		<author>belinda_20</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23171</guid>
		<description>Hi Joan,
Thanks for all the input I didn't find the disetronic web pages very helpful
at all and I printed it out for my daughter and only part of page prints due
to the way they put the print on the page on web site. They don't list
prices etc. as the minimed did for the accessories etc. or even a very good
pic of it. I had hoped for a place to call and order a video etc. but all I
could do was register as a customer so far.
The way I found out we were getting a different pump than we were told was
the trainer from disetronic called me to see if I had received any info yet,
which I hadn't as all info I had gotten was from minimed.
We have an endo who is on a pump and two others which aren't diab, also have
a wonderful diab educator and a nutritionist, and social worker etc.
Once we proved to them that we were serious about the pump and had a 7 month
log of blood sugars to show them etc. we were considered and info sent to ins
co and had no problem getting it approved or for the three day hospital stay
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from jan 6 to 8 to be put on it.
I really appreciate your telling me the differences like water proof and
etc., do they have plastic or teflon catheters as Alisha is allergic to most
metals and tapes.
It was quite a shock today when the trainer called me about disetronic as I
really hadn't even considered it at all afraid I wasn't very nice to him he
is supposed to send info and come to the house and do a demo for us.
Thanks again and any thing else you think of that was helpful to you let us
new ones know, please.
Kathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joan,<br />
Thanks for all the input I didn&#8217;t find the disetronic web pages very helpful<br />
at all and I printed it out for my daughter and only part of page prints due<br />
to the way they put the print on the page on web site. They don&#8217;t list<br />
prices etc. as the minimed did for the accessories etc. or even a very good<br />
pic of it. I had hoped for a place to call and order a video etc. but all I<br />
could do was register as a customer so far.<br />
The way I found out we were getting a different pump than we were told was<br />
the trainer from disetronic called me to see if I had received any info yet,<br />
which I hadn&#8217;t as all info I had gotten was from minimed.<br />
We have an endo who is on a pump and two others which aren&#8217;t diab, also have<br />
a wonderful diab educator and a nutritionist, and social worker etc.<br />
Once we proved to them that we were serious about the pump and had a 7 month<br />
log of blood sugars to show them etc. we were considered and info sent to ins<br />
co and had no problem getting it approved or for the three day hospital stay<br />
<!--more--><br />
from jan 6 to 8 to be put on it.<br />
I really appreciate your telling me the differences like water proof and<br />
etc., do they have plastic or teflon catheters as Alisha is allergic to most<br />
metals and tapes.<br />
It was quite a shock today when the trainer called me about disetronic as I<br />
really hadn&#8217;t even considered it at all afraid I wasn&#8217;t very nice to him he<br />
is supposed to send info and come to the house and do a demo for us.<br />
Thanks again and any thing else you think of that was helpful to you let us<br />
new ones know, please.<br />
Kathy</p>
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		<title>By: damian150</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23169</link>
		<author>damian150</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2003 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can think of at least one who hasn't checked in. Leslie, are you still
alive?
Jan

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&#62; Thank the Lord we all are....Have a Happy....Joan :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can think of at least one who hasn&#8217;t checked in. Leslie, are you still<br />
alive?<br />
Jan</p>
<p>&gt;<br />
&gt; Thank the Lord we all are&#8230;.Have a Happy&#8230;.Joan <img src='http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: roy_1600</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23168</link>
		<author>roy_1600</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Red, it's time to get after that insurance company...Its called
&#34;discrimination&#34; and we can use the word liberally when it comes to
diabetes. Suggest you contact the Juvenile Diabetes Assoc. support group in
your area...might be time to start inviting a lawyer to have a &#34;discussion&#34;
with the powers that be....Joan:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Red, it&#8217;s time to get after that insurance company&#8230;Its called<br />
&quot;discrimination&quot; and we can use the word liberally when it comes to<br />
diabetes. Suggest you contact the Juvenile Diabetes Assoc. support group in<br />
your area&#8230;might be time to start inviting a lawyer to have a &quot;discussion&quot;<br />
with the powers that be&#8230;.Joan:)</p>
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		<title>By: roy_1600</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23167</link>
		<author>roy_1600</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy:
Make SURE that there is a scheduled pump training session with your CDE or
pump trainer Before actual use. Trial run before using insulin in the pump
should be at least a week to get the hang of using the pump and inserting
infusion sets...there is also adjusting basal rates for her (sorry don't know
her name and age) and that fine tuning should be done under
supervision......Joan :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy:<br />
Make SURE that there is a scheduled pump training session with your CDE or<br />
pump trainer Before actual use. Trial run before using insulin in the pump<br />
should be at least a week to get the hang of using the pump and inserting<br />
infusion sets&#8230;there is also adjusting basal rates for her (sorry don&#8217;t know<br />
her name and age) and that fine tuning should be done under<br />
supervision&#8230;&#8230;Joan <img src='http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: roy_1600</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23166</link>
		<author>roy_1600</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23166</guid>
		<description>Thank the Lord we all are....Have a Happy....Joan :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank the Lord we all are&#8230;.Have a Happy&#8230;.Joan <img src='http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: roy_1600</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/2003/09/07/anyone-out-there/#comment-23165</link>
		<author>roy_1600</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David Happy Holidays ! Joan :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David Happy Holidays ! Joan <img src='http://www.diabetic.netslonguirado.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: roy_1600</title>
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		<author>roy_1600</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank: Have you tried any other type of infusion set??? I've been
alternating between the Rapids in 6mm and 8 mm length and the Soft-set
QRs...with different depths of penetration, it may prove more helpful. You
can also place a 6mm Rapid on your buttocks...just stay away from your
hip...very slow absorption (less subcutaneous tissue for some reason) and I
know you aren't as padded as some of us....I tried the
Tenders/Silhouettes...had a wonderful allergic reaction to both the cannula
and the adhesive...interesting branding...took a while to clear.
The Rapids and the Bent needles allow for a bit less depth for insertion and
are great except if you have metal sensitivity...might have to change the
site a bit more frequently, but I'm finding that depending upon where it is,
it can last me up to 3 days. Greasing is fine for skin, but water inside is
better....try increasing your fluid intake to 8 - 8 oz glasses per
day...Happy Holidays! Joan:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank: Have you tried any other type of infusion set??? I&#8217;ve been<br />
alternating between the Rapids in 6mm and 8 mm length and the Soft-set<br />
QRs&#8230;with different depths of penetration, it may prove more helpful. You<br />
can also place a 6mm Rapid on your buttocks&#8230;just stay away from your<br />
hip&#8230;very slow absorption (less subcutaneous tissue for some reason) and I<br />
know you aren&#8217;t as padded as some of us&#8230;.I tried the<br />
Tenders/Silhouettes&#8230;had a wonderful allergic reaction to both the cannula<br />
and the adhesive&#8230;interesting branding&#8230;took a while to clear.<br />
The Rapids and the Bent needles allow for a bit less depth for insertion and<br />
are great except if you have metal sensitivity&#8230;might have to change the<br />
site a bit more frequently, but I&#8217;m finding that depending upon where it is,<br />
it can last me up to 3 days. Greasing is fine for skin, but water inside is<br />
better&#8230;.try increasing your fluid intake to 8 - 8 oz glasses per<br />
day&#8230;Happy Holidays! Joan:)</p>
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