No Bolus’s

Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can help. Here it is.
Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump hasn’t recorded
some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them at the time I
simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of times no
bolus……
and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say at lunch.

Doesn’t make sense does it?

So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what would happen and
guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho, no reactions have

occured??????

So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the results so far..
05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2 hrs
08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m still testing as I
sit here.
I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
fp

13 Responses to “No Bolus’s”

  1. elmo_15 Says:

    Further to my previous post
    the 09:19 b/g reading was 8.8(158)
    Does anyone know of a website that gives detailed info on b/g readings?? I’m
    particularly interested in what the target readings during the first 2 hours
    after eating shud be.
    fp

  2. antoinette_5 Says:

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up and doing a
    fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose level. How long
    have you been diabetic? What are your basil rates? What kind of breakfast did
    you eat this morning. How much insulin do you bolus? Do you use carb counting?
    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will depend on how
    fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make your sugar rise
    more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of all talk to your
    CDE and Registered Nutritionist.
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s


    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can help. Here it
    is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump hasn’t recorded
    some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them at the time I
    simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of times no
    bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say at lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what would happen and
    guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho, no reactions
    have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the results so
    far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2 hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m still testing as
    I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  3. elmo_15 Says:

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up and
    doing a fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose level.
    I’ll try that Frank, but don’t think so.
    How long have you been diabetic? 20+ years, pumping since april 1,1999
    What are your basil rates? Same as always no changes
    What kind of breakfast did you eat this morning. same as always,
    cereal/milk, juice, coffee. 60 carbs
    How much insulin do you bolus? havn’t bolused in 3 days, but normally I wud
    bolus 9.0 units for that meal.
    Do you use carb counting? Yes

    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will depend on
    how fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make your sugar
    rise more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of all talk to

    your CDE and Registered Nutritionist. definatly intend to do that, nobody around
    till Monday. thanks Frank
    fp
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s

    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can help. Here
    it is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump hasn’t
    recorded some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them at the
    time I simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of times
    no bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say at
    lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what would
    happen and guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho, no
    reactions have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the results
    so far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2 hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m still
    testing as I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  4. antoinette_5 Says:

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up and
    doing a fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose level.
    I’ll try that Frank, but don’t think so.
    How long have you been diabetic? 20+ years, pumping since april 1,1999
    What are your basil rates? Same as always no changes
    What kind of breakfast did you eat this morning. same as always,
    cereal/milk, juice, coffee. 60 carbs
    How much insulin do you bolus? havn’t bolused in 3 days, but normally I wud
    bolus 9.0 units for that meal.
    Do you use carb counting? Yes

    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will depend on
    how fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make your sugar
    rise more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of all talk to

    your CDE and Registered Nutritionist. definatly intend to do that, nobody around
    till Monday. thanks Frank
    fp
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s

    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can help. Here
    it is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump hasn’t
    recorded some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them at the
    time I simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of times
    no bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say at lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what would happen
    and guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho, no
    reactions have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the results so
    far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2 hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m still testing
    as I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  5. elmo_15 Says:

    I just don’t understand it myself. You bolus 9 units and you do not go low?
    Careful now, I said i normally would do that. For the last 3 days I havn’t had
    to bolus at all. go figure, huh??? Plus you can achieve a 158 after a few
    hours with out taking insulin. Yup, with only the basal doing the work. When do
    you start to feel Hypoglycemic? Havn’t had a low since stating on the pump :o)

    Now another development…. I recently started an exercise program with the
    Cardiac Rehab Unit which involves walking approx. 1/2 mile 3 times a week. Ya
    think this would have any bearing on this??
    fp

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up
    and doing a fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose
    level.
    I’ll try that Frank, but don’t think so.

    How long have you been diabetic? 20+ years, pumping since april
    1,1999
    What are your basil rates? Same as always no changes
    What kind of breakfast did you eat this morning. same as always,
    cereal/milk, juice, coffee. 60 carbs
    How much insulin do you bolus? havn’t bolused in 3 days, but
    normally I wud bolus 9.0 units for that meal.
    Do you use carb counting? Yes

    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will
    depend on how fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make
    your sugar rise more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of
    all talk to your CDE and Registered Nutritionist. definatly intend to do that,
    nobody around till Monday. thanks Frank
    fp
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s

    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can
    help. Here it is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump
    hasn’t recorded some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them
    at the time I simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of
    times no bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say
    at lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what
    would happen and guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho,
    no reactions have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the
    results so far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2
    hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m
    still testing as I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  6. elmo_15 Says:

    Frank my current reading is 6.7(120) :o)
    fp

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up
    and doing a fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose
    level.
    I’ll try that Frank, but don’t think so.
    How long have you been diabetic? 20+ years, pumping since april
    1,1999
    What are your basil rates? Same as always no changes
    What kind of breakfast did you eat this morning. same as always,
    cereal/milk, juice, coffee. 60 carbs
    How much insulin do you bolus? havn’t bolused in 3 days, but
    normally I wud bolus 9.0 units for that meal.
    Do you use carb counting? Yes

    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will
    depend on how fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make
    your sugar rise more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of
    all talk to your CDE and Registered Nutritionist. definatly intend to do that,
    nobody around till Monday. thanks Frank
    fp
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s

    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can
    help. Here it is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump
    hasn’t recorded some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them
    at the time I simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of
    times no bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say
    at lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what
    would happen and guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho,
    no reactions have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the
    results so far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2
    hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m
    still testing as I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  7. damian150 Says:

    It sounds like maybe your basil rates are set to high. Try waking up
    and doing a fast through lunch to see if there is a big drop in your Glucose
    level.
    I’ll try that Frank, but don’t think so.
    How long have you been diabetic? 20+ years, pumping since april
    1,1999
    What are your basil rates? Same as always no changes
    What kind of breakfast did you eat this morning. same as always,
    cereal/milk, juice, coffee. 60 carbs
    How much insulin do you bolus? havn’t bolused in 3 days, but
    normally I wud bolus 9.0 units for that meal.
    Do you use carb counting? Yes

    These all could be factors.
    Depending on what kind of breakfast you eat in the morning will

    depend on how fast your blood sugar will rise. Eating simple carbs will make
    your sugar rise more sharply as opposed to eating more complex carbs. Most of
    all talk to your CDE and Registered Nutritionist. definatly intend to do that,
    nobody around till Monday. thanks Frank
    fp
    —– Original Message —–
    From: Footprints
    To: Undisclosed Recipients
    Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 9:13 AM
    Subject: [Insulinpumpusers] No Bolus’s

    Hi gang , I’m restleing with a situation and hope y’all can
    help. Here it is.
    Lately I’ve encountered a situation that appears like my pump
    hasn’t recorded some of the boluses. This is because I don’t always record them
    at the time I simply bring ‘em up and record ‘em later. so I noticed a couple of
    times no bolus……
    and yet when I looked at the next b/g test…it’s normal!! Say
    at lunch.

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

    So, to test the system I purposely did not bolus to see what
    would happen and guess what? next b/g normal….. how do yak figure??

    I repeated this a couple of different days….same result.

    So it would appear I’ve been bolusing unnecessarily, even tho,
    no reactions have occured??????

    So this morning I’m doing a detailed assessment , here are the
    results so far..
    05:27..b/g 7.7 (128); high b/g bolus 1.5
    0:610..b/g 6.3(113);
    06:21..eat usual bkfst 60 carbs, no bolus
    06:51..b/g 11.5(173) climbing..
    07:07..b/g 13.2(238) climbing…
    07:24..b/g 13.6(245) leveling?
    07:40..b/g 14.2(256) nope…
    07:55,,b/g 12.5(225) dropping, elapsed time 1.5 hrs approx.
    08:10..b/g 11.4(205)
    08:25..b/g 10.2(205) within target, (125 to 198), elapsed time 2
    hrs
    08:41..b/g 11.1(199) up a bit
    09:03..b/g 10.2(205) back on target
    Remember, NO BOLUS YET, that’s the blow by blow picture, I’m
    still testing as I sit here.
    I’m confused, please may I have any comments??
    fp

  8. roy_1600 Says:

    Hi fp:
    what’s your basal rate? and what pump are you using? Joan:)

  9. roy_1600 Says:

    Yes fp - the exercise program may definitely be making a difference. One of
    the reasons why our health care providers encourage us to exercise. It opens
    up more receptor sites on cells so that glucose is absorbed for fuel and
    doesn’t require additional insuling to do it. Check with your exercise
    physiologist and your CDE… Joan:)

  10. elmo_15 Says:

    Hi Joan,
    12am to 2am=1.4; 2am to 6am=2.0; 6am 1.6; 7am to 10pm=1.4; 10pm to midnight
    1.2….Using a Disetronic, Htron v100
    fp

  11. elmo_15 Says:

    As soon as the doors open on Monday, I’ll be there. Thanks Joan
    fp

  12. roy_1600 Says:

    OK fp:
    you get the dawn phenomenon , right? have you done a series of b.g.s since
    you started your exercise program? might be an idea to compare and see the
    effect your exercise program is having on your overall picture. You should
    also touch base with your CDE and see if you need to adjust your basal rate
    again. But I’d wait to adjust until you’ve had a couple of weeks on your new
    program to see the overall result. Joan :)

  13. elmo_15 Says:

    Well you saw my original post, that was one hell of a series. LOL

    might be an idea to compare and see the
    >effect your exercise program is having on your overall picture. You should
    >also touch base with your CDE and see if you need to adjust your basal rate
    >again.

    I’ll be talkin to them later today

    But I’d wait to adjust until you’ve had a couple of weeks on your new
    >program to see the overall result.

    Thats about where I am now

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